Insanity is just a state of mind!
It's Going To Be A Long Year
Published on November 20, 2005 By Nadeon In Current Events
I just returned from taking my second oldest son to the airport. Michael is a newly minted Corporal in the Army. He was home for ten days on his final block leave before his unit rolls out to Iraq. He's headed to the Sunni Triangle. I won't get more specific, and am making a concentrated effort to self censor myself from using specifics. I work in military circles and it's too easy to forget what is commonly discussed at work is not necessarily for public consumption. Ours is an Army household, with my wife still on active duty, and myself recently retired, a step daughter off to Basic this summer, and of course Michael, (and no, we do not yell hoohah when we get up in the morning). Conversations around here sound like a foreign language to our neighbors and non-military friends! And of course a lot of things discussed here while not classified, are sometimes sensitive. Troop movements being one of them. Although I am amazed that you can find a hell of a lot on Google!

I've got a lot of mixed feelings right now. It did hit me a bit harder than I thought it would at the airport. I feel almost schizophrenic. I'm having to deal with all of the dad feelings, and at the same time my Segeant's eye sizes him up as a soldier. He's a good kid, and a good soldier. Excuse me, good young man, he's 21 now, ( which has it's advantages; we're both a little hungover today). We had Thanksgiving dinner for him last Sunday, since he won't be here next Thursday. Christmas kind of snuck in a little too as we had begun dragging out the outdoor decorations to see what still lit up, and what needed to go.

I'm worried for his safety, but I trust in his training and his leadership. Michael has always taken his training seriously. Don't get me wrong, he gripes about the Army just as I did, and as I suspect Roman Legionaires did before us. That makes me smile..."my Platoon Segeant made us....", my Centurion made us..." Like they say, the more things change, the more they remain the same.

The hardest part of this leave was keeping Sergeant Mom at bay. Sometimes she needs to be reminded to be less mom, and more Sergeant in regards to certain situations. For instance when junior troop son is being a slob, strips the refrigerator bare like a swarm of locusts in a wheat field, and declares a day to run from 1200 hours to 0400 hours. It's my job to gently remind her he's on leave and won't be doing those things again for quite a long time. I do draw the line at coarse language in public or mixed company. F%^& is not an acceptable alternative to every verb, noun, adjective, or adverb known to man! It's not that we're overly sensitive to it; lord knows Sergeant mom could probably make him blush, it's just that we've learned to be a little more genteel when it's inappropriate to speak in soldiereze. He hasn't quite grasped that concept yet.

As you might surmise, the goodbyes here weren't all the teary eyed ones you see on the news. There were those of course from his sister and younger brothers, and I was misty eyed at the airport. Ours included a good dose of soldierly gallows humor as well. Some of you are probably familiar with the joking about serious things that goes on in military circles; "if they got you cornered, take a few with you" etc. Still, the tightness in my chest and the sense of unease are there.

During my years in the Army's Recruiting command I enlisted quite a few young men and women, knowing some would go to war, and some of those might not return. I never took that lightly, but it was still somewhat abstract. It's personal now. I find myself reassessing a lot of my opinions about politics and policies. Maybe it's current events and things coming to light recently. Maybe it's my son. It's probably both. Right now I'm just trying to assimilate how a scabby kneed skateboarder "rucked up" and picked up his rifle. I'm proud of you Mike. You're a good man.

More to follow as I figure this out."

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on Nov 20, 2005
What a sweet, proud, and sad article.

I hope your son will be safe and be able to make a positive impact in Iraq.

This really underscores the way I feel about all the gung-ho Americans who "support" the war in Iraq. It's easy to give lip service to supporting something when it has no impact on you and asks no sacrifice of you. I have a lot more respect for those who not only say they support the war, but put their money where their mouth is and serve.

Please keep us updated on your son's deployment. He'll be in my thoughts.
on Nov 20, 2005
Please keep us updated on your son's deployment. He'll be in my thoughts.


Thanks TW, I appreciate that. You're most gracious and kind.
on Nov 20, 2005
Thank you Nadeon! Even though I have seen friends, family, and even myself off to war, I look at my 4 kids and I admit, I have no idea what it would be like to send off one of my kids. Two of them are of recruiting age now, and one has even expressed interest in enlisting. I can only imagine how much different it is to send a son or daughter than to go yourself, or send off a relative or close friend.

I have to admit, while I would be proud to have any of my sons or my daughter join up, I am clueless about how I would react to sending them off to war. I would hope that I'd be much like you, misty eyed and scared for them, but proud.

However, unlike you, I have never been in that place. I applaud you for your strength and your honor in this situation. I pray for you, your family and your son.
on Nov 20, 2005
I'm proud of both you and your son - you're both good men. As Texas said, please keep us updated on your son's deployment. The good folks here will pray for his safe return.

I salute you both.
on Nov 20, 2005
Best of luck to your son, and peace to you and your wife.
on Nov 20, 2005
MM snaps his best salute to both you and son, may he be safe.
on Nov 20, 2005
Two of them are of recruiting age now, and one has even expressed interest in enlisting.


We get to go through that again come August. Number 3 son will be of recruiting age. Since Sergeant mom is a recruiting supervisor (Area NCOIC) in his High School area she's already had the "hands off" talk with every other service supervisor in her domain. She did it with Michael as well. If they want to talk to him, they make the appointment with her. She's not blocking anyone, just controlling the PR side of it. If he ultimately decides he wants to give it a shot. We already know what recruiters are the slick hustler car salesmen type, and which ones genuinely care. I take it a little further since I work with all the service counselors at the local Military Entrance Processing Station (MEPS). When it's a recruiting kid, a lot of the selling hype is put aside. The assumption is that the parents are very familiar with armed services regulations and recruting procedures (kind of like trying to sell a car to Mr. Goodwrench).
When Michael enlisted almost 4 years ago now, (originally into the Army National Guard), I wrote the actual enlistment packet, although I was'nt the recruiter of credit (someone got a gimme). Since Sergeant mom and I were both MEPS counselors, we were there for the swear in (every other service counselor and MEPS staff person observed his swear in ceremony by the MEPS Commander; we were quite touched by that). The MEPS Commander after administering the oath of enlistment, promptly "dropped" Michael for pushups! Poor kid got his first taste of his parent's legacy! He actually had a picture of that taped in his wall locker at Basic. His Drill Sergeants dropped him on principle for that! Later when he transferred into the Regular Army, Sergeant mom reviewed the contract and options. She didn't coddle him, but did put the kabash on him wanting to do a Special Forces option. I don't think she knows he already has an SF application submitted to his unit Commander for when he returns from Iraq. Currently he's a Counter Intelligence Agent (credentialled). That gives us some concern as he operates in a 3 man team that does reconnaissance ahead of the main force, (probably where he got the SF idea since he works closely with them).

Thank you for your sentiments and support. If I can help with translating some of the recruting stuff if the time comes, drop a reply here since it goes to my email.
on Nov 20, 2005
The good folks here will pray for his safe return.


I know you will. It really warms my heart to read these replies.
on Nov 20, 2005
Best of luck to your son, and peace to you and your wife.


Thanks Doc.
on Nov 20, 2005
MM snaps his best salute to both you and son, may he be safe.


Thank you MM. But you don't have to salute, we're NCOs; we work for a living!
on Nov 20, 2005
Thank you MM. But you don't have to salute, we're NCOs; we work for a living!


I understand we dont call you sir either. For the same reason.
on Nov 20, 2005
I also am from a somewhat military family (Grandpa 1, Captain Air Force, Grandpa 2, Tech Seargeant Army Chem Weapons Service, Uncle, Marine Vietnam, Dad, Army MI Vietnam). I have the utmost respect for your son and your family, even more so now that I am a legal adult. I will pray for your son's safety.
on Nov 20, 2005
Thank you MM. But you don't have to salute, we're NCOs; we work for a living!


Pssst....MM Go to parade rest.

Good luck to your son. What's his MOS?
on Nov 20, 2005
My husband's active duty and out eldest has decided that she wants to join the army when she graduates. Your scenario may very well be the situation in our house in a few years time (except for the sgt mom part, im not active duty).

I'll have a good thought for your son and your family....and thank you for your service, and for his too.
on Nov 20, 2005
little whip:
I resemble that remark, Tex.


In my mind, no you don't, for a couple of reasons.

By "gung-ho Americans who 'support' the war" I mean the healthy enlistment age blowhards (particularly males) who like to talk shit and are more concerned with policy than the lives of actual human beings. I mean the people who are completely detached from the effects of the war and only give lip service to the cause that they seem to support so aggressively.

That doesn't describe you. Yes, you support the war, but I have not seen you express that heartless, cavalier, blow-hard attitude that so irks me.

And further, I don't lump folks who have a valid reason for not enlisting (age, health, etc.) in with the jerks I was describing in my comment. There are ways to experience the impact of the war and actively support the troops without being an active duty service member, but the kind of person I was trying to describe doesn't do a damn thing besides slap a yellow ribbon sticker on the back of his Ford Explorer.

I find it hurtful when people who have loved ones in the military denigrate and dismiss the opinions and feelings of those of us who don't.


I don't think having a husband in the military grants me any special status, and I hope that I don't come off that way. I DO feel effects of the war, though, and I can't help but express my views from that perspective.

I don't mean to dismiss or denigrate your views. I DO mean to show my disdain for the kind of assholes I've described here, though.

I'm sorry that it isnt enough for some people


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