Insanity is just a state of mind!
If I Fart In Cyberspace, Can You Hear It?
Published on August 19, 2006 By Nadeon In Blogging
Good googly moogly Martha! I go away from J/U for awhile and there's a total break with reality. I just skimmed over various articles and their related replies and I'm just shaking my head in disblief. Perhaps it's my impression of a blog; kind of a quasi newspaper/magazine article diary sort of thing with a "Letters To The Editor" thrown in.
I used to work for AOL as a Remote Tech in their old Tech Live area (back when your phone bill was billed for your on line time...hey any way you can get a free account to avoid $400.00 surprises works for me!). Because we were a small community we got close (as close as you can get in cyberdom anyway) and eventually arranged for a "Tech Live" get together. What an eye opener that was. Your impressions of the majority of the folks you chat with are usually way off. The best example of that I can give would be to read a popular book and then go to see the movie version. Not quite what your mind's eye translated the written word into. Somtimes pleasantly surprising, most times not. How many of you actually envisioned Harry Potter the way he was cast in the very first movie (now that you read the books with the movie character in mind)? Reality at the Tech Live get together showed that most folks were older/younger, taller/shorter, thinner/fatter and on and on, than you imagined them being. One gentleman I chatted with on line for a long time was in a wheelchair and on oxygen. He never mentioned it on line. I was pleased he showed up. Most of our personalities however were quite different than our on line ones. Outspoken folks on line, seemed more reserved and introverted for example. The ones that oozed sex and inuendo on line were not in real life what they protrayed in cyberdom.
When you read a newspaper article, it's ok to feel passionately about the topic and take issue with the opinions of the writer and/or editor. It is not ok to be so boorish as to call down all manner of curses and bad juju on that person for having an opinion. Nor is it ok to go around slandering that person's good name in public and in private because their opinion is not yours. Writing an article in a newspaper, or on J/U for that matter does not make you a public person, open to the ferocious attacks on you family and lifestyle that invites. Jimmy Carter was a democrat, his policies were'nt always the best. But you know what? Despite my politics or yours, Habitat For Humanity is a pretty damn nice thing.
To continually slam a blogger on J/U and cast aspirations on their personal life or character because of some inference you detected is smarmy and small minded. Get a grip. People who post here are what they want to be, and what they want you to take them as. Precious few are brave, or stupid enough to be 100% candid about whom they really are. Face it, you don't really know them at all beyond their opinion on a particular topic or comment they have made. If you do know them personally, and you're exchanging gossip on J/U, get a clue YOU NEED TO SPEND MORE QUALITY TIME TOGETHER...IN PERSON! If you don't like some one's on line handle, get over it. People choose their on line names for various reasons and you couldn't possibly in a million years know what that reason was. To criticize it is petty beyond belief. To put them in a position of having to defend it is deplorable and down right sub human of you. My name for instance, offended someone here because they assumed the Nad portion was a refference to the slang name used for testicles. In point of fact, my name is DAN. NAD is DAN backwards. EON you can figure out on your own. I would have given my right arm to see the face of the person whom chopped me off at the knees over NAD when they found out what it really meant!
The point of all is this; Kids heres a tip for you: THIS AIN'T REALITY! It's diversion. Sometimes very cerebral diversion. But reality is that great kid that would really like to spend time with you instead of wating for you to finish a new cutting edge posting for J/U. Reality is getting together with some like minded people and discussing what you can do in the real world about some of the issues discussed on here. Reality is not the soft glow of a flat panel monitor. Reality is a gorgeous sunset in late summer shared with someone you love. Remember it's a tough life out there for everybody in many different ways. Don't bring your egocentric garbage in here. Like the old sign at the public pool used to say: We don't swim in your toilet, so don't pee in our pool!
Have a good evening and remember, it's ok to disagree. It is not ok to hate.

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on Aug 20, 2006
I'm not real. I'm just a collection of electrons that got together in a conspiracy to take over the world. As soon as we figure out how to get out of this damned wire you're all doomed!
on Aug 21, 2006
Serenity, I don't know as that I've ever disagreed with you, yet I do today. I believe cyberspace is reality. I"m real, I really went fishing today, really had a subway sandwich and a DQ later, and am sharing that info with all of you now and will be proud to share the photos when they're developed. Although due to a camera malfunction the date will say 1994!! ...sometimes the date has to be set every single time I use that camera


I thought it was meant that some personas were not real - showing a false front as themselves and not ther true personalities?

Yes the people in cyberspace are real, yes cyber space can be a very dangerous place
but not all people using cyber space show their true selves - some pretend to be stronger than they are in the real world, some shyier, etc etc etc the list is endless the end result is a persona is created or moulded.

peace and light Trudy
on Aug 21, 2006
jennifer1


I thought it was meant that some personas were not real - showing a false front as themselves and not ther true personalities?


Ahhh my bad, jennifer1, I get it now. yes some show phony personnas...yep.

peace and light to you too jennifer1
on Aug 21, 2006
thought it was meant that some personas were not real - showing a false front as themselves and not ther true personalities?

Yes the people in cyberspace are real, yes cyber space can be a very dangerous place
but not all people using cyber space show their true selves - some pretend to be stronger than they are in the real world, some shyier, etc etc etc the list is endless the end result is a persona is created or moulded.


Exactly what I meant. Thx for clarifying Jennifer!



I get it now. yes some show phony personnas...yep.


Exactly Trudy. No harm done! [waves @ Trudy!]
on Jun 21, 2007
Dan, its is people like you that give the net a bad name... with statements like "The point of all is this; Kids heres a tip for you: THIS AIN'T REALITY! It's diversion. Sometimes very cerebral diversion." and your title "CYBER PEOPLE ARE NOT REAL". This attitude gets up my graw... Saying this and things similar indicates to some that there is free licence to do and to say whatever they will and or please that can and does class as cyber-bullying, and in extreme cases as cyber-terrorism.

The Net is made up of real people with real emotions, talking with or communicating with real people with real emotions. Who are you to say they are not real people?

It would seem that perhaps you have been hurt online in the past, and that saying this then is some form of elixir to help the cyber-pain subside, and thereby give you licence to say and do whatever you please on line... well surprise - it does not!

The comment "Precious few are brave, or stupid enough to be 100% candid about whom they really are. Face it, you don't really know them at all beyond their opinion on a particular topic or comment they have made." is accurate, people may not know with whom they are talking - even more reason to treat people with respect rather than as something that is not real.

The phrase "its only cyber - its not real" is an over-generalisation to cover up something that is being done or said that would not happen if the person was opposite you. This type of attitude can be extended to encompass, for example: going to the local library... slapping someone there whom you dont know, never met, and sayhing oh, its not real, it only the library" or similar "going to a pub, and poking someone in the eye with a pool cue, and saying oh, its not real, its only the pub..." Of course you will say now that its not the same - but in fact it is exactly the same, the only difference is the medium within which it is contained! Another example, perhaps more inkeeping... "writing to a pen-pal and I say all kinds of things to them... then saying oh, its not real, its only pen and paper...!"

You need to wake up, and stop ranting, and begin to see that people use the internet not robots or some mechanical device!

Perhaps you are not real... and just some virtual entity, or mechanicla presence... if so, then sign over all your worldly wealth to me... as according to your title, you are not real...

Wake up - your coffee is cold! In closing you write "Don't bring your egocentric garbage in here." (EDITED: - Added comment) Well practice what you preach... and leave your ranting at home... and not on the net, afterall you are not real, only cyber!


Tova7, you address two issues:

1. They aren't real. It's only cyber space.

2. They are real, but a new version of reality with no set rules yet.

Both are fallacies - as there are rules governing it, and yes it is real. Your final statement "So yes, it is real. There are real people (though some may be liars) behind every screen and keyboard. And while I would never encourage net relationships to replace real life ones, they certainly make a very nice addition." says it all.

Jennifer1 states "Yes the people in cyberspace are real, yes cyber space can be a very dangerous place but not all people using cyber space show their true selves - some pretend to be stronger than they are in the real world, some shyier, etc etc etc the list is endless the end result is a persona is created or moulded."

Yes, cyber-space is dangerous... but so is going to the pub, crossing the road, or going swimming. Each and everyday you pass complete stragers in the street... they could be a suicide bomber, a paedophile, a rapist and murderer... just about anyone... but it would not be nromal to think of people in the street this way, but saying that cyber is not real allows a person to do and to say just what they want when they want how they want to whom they want under the guise of its not real... wake up people, it is real, very real, and currently there are laws being introduced to govern the net, and prosecute those who break the law!
on Jun 21, 2007
although this is an older article, I liked it, you said some real truths here. Good
stuff. Some fo0lks take Joeuser too damn real, I know I did for a long long time, now I use it for what it is meant for diversion. fun.

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